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  • I have a horse that is wormed monthly. The horse has become a tail rubber. He is 9 and this is the first summer he has done this. He is normally kept out in a pasture with other geldings.

    He is now being kept indoors during the day and let out at night. This is to try to keep the "no see-ums" at bay as they supposedly to no like to go in builds. The wounds that he has created we are treating with SWAT. He has also been getting daily doses of garlic.

    During my research I have seen that there is some controversy surrpounding garlic and horses. Basically, there  is no proof that it works as a fly deterrent, which based on my observations, I question that claim. More disturbing is that it can cause hemolytic anemia. The lady that runs the facility we are boarding at made the comment last week that she thought he was anemic!

    So, what are the opinions out there in regards to giving garlic to horses?

    My thoughts with horses is that there are a lot of products out there thatmake a lot of claims but that there is little or no science backing up those claims, much as it is with the supplements we humans take. A lto of BOGUS CLAIMS to wander thru.
  • I've also read some disturbing stuff about garlic and horses and choose not to take the chance - though I eat it myself! [':)']
     
    I don't know where you are but my friend is in Va and those little biters give me fits when I'm there!!
     
    I use Avon SSS, ACV and eucalyptus oil mixture fly spray....
  • By Karen Hayes, DVM, MS It's heartening to see how passionate readers are about the care of their horses--and their garlic! The toxic element in allium (a family of plants including both garlic and onions) is well known to be a chemical called N-propyl disulfide. By altering an enzyme present within the red blood cell, it depletes the cell of a chemical known as phosphate dehydrogenase (PD), whose job is to protect the cell from natural oxidative damage.
     
    When the PD level gets low enough, the hemoglobin in the cell oxidizes and forms a "bubble" called a Heinz body on the outside of the cell--it's quite distinctive and readily seen under the microscope. The spleen--which acts as a red-cell "bouncer" of sorts--quickly removes the deformed cell from the bloodstream. As more and more red cells are prematurely damaged and removed, as will happen from consistent poisoning with N-propyl disulfide, your horse gradually becomes anemic. This is called Heinz-body anemia.
     
    The "toxic dose" of N-propyl disulfide, which is not well worked out in any species, is the amount thought to cause obvious poisoning, a sort of "9-1-1" situation. Cows are thought to be more sensitive to the toxin than are horses, but in one study published in 1972 in the "Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association," the toxic dose in horses turned out to be considerably less than the 5 grams per kilogram of body weight reported in cows.
    Here's what happened. When horses in a pasture dotted with wild onions came down with anemia (low red-blood-cell count), jaundice (increased bile pigments in the blood, causing yellowish discoloration of the gums and whites of the eyes), and reddish-colored urine, investigators decided to find out for sure whether onions had caused these symptoms.
    To do so, they fed 1 pound of the onion tops per day to a healthy horse for 3 days, along with his regular feed, then 4 pounds on Day 4. From Day 4 through Day 8, his packed cell volume (or PCV, meaning his red-blood-cell percentage) dropped about 23 percent, from 30 to 23.
    The investigators continued to give the horse onion tops on Days 9 and 10; by Day 11, his PCV had dropped to a life-threatening 13--he'd lost almost 60 percent of his red blood cells in 11 days!
    Most of us with a rudimentary interest in equine toxicology have no quarrel with this report, but what would've happened to pasture horses if they'd eaten smaller doses of the toxin? Good question--and here's where the controversy comes in.
    Some vets say the toxic effects are more gradual and insidious--but still very real--when a lower dose is consumed on a regular basis, resulting in a mild anemia without obvious symptoms. This has been my experience in a practice. I see a handful of cases of Heinz-body anemia every year in horses that grazed on wild onions growing amidst the grass in their pastures, or helped themselves to discarded onions and leeks in the compost pile, or raided the garlic patch in the garden.
    No well-designed, formal research has been conducted on the ill effects of lower doses of garlic on horses. But, to be fair, there also hasn't been any well-designed, formal research on the benefits of garlic in horses. For example, I've seen lots of horses reeking of garlic and crawling with flies, though garlic is reputed to be an effective fly repellent.
    I've no doubt those of you who are feeding garlic to your horses are doing so because you want only the best for them--the best health and the highest degree of comfort. That's why I feel it's important for you to understand it isn't enough to say garlic is safe just because you haven't seen any ill effects in your garlic-supplemented horse. Depending on the dose, and the frequency and duration of dosing, there could be low-grade deleterious effects, due to red-blood-cell damage that's not enough to cause a 9-1-1 situation, but just enough to cause a mild anemia that might not be outwardly evident. It might affect your horse's stamina, energy level, or resistance to disease.
    Until these suspicions are investigated and repudiated, how much risk are you willing to take? Until well-designed, formal research is done on garlic's risks and benefits, specifically in horses, it seems the only safe avenue is the avenue of caution. At the very least, I wanted each of you to make your decisions with benefit of all available information, including longstanding reports from researchers far greater than me, indicating that the popular garlic bulb has a dark side.
    REFERENCES
    Pierce, K.R., et al.,
    Acute hemolytic anemia caused by wild onion poisoning in horses, "Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association," 1972; pages 160/323 to 327.
    Lewis L.D. "Equine Clinical Nutrition," Williams and Wilkins, 1995, page 480.
    Kobluk, Ames, and George, "The Horse; Diseases and Clinical Management," Saunders, 1995, page 1,083.
    Knight A.P. and Walter R.G. "A Guide To Plant Poisoning Of Animals In North America," Teton NewMedia, 2001, page 186.
    Murphy M., "A Field Guide To Common Animal Poisons"; Iowa State University Press, 1996, page 160.
    Dr.Hayes is an equine practitioner based in Idaho. She's a frequent contributor to Horse & Rider magazine and EquiSearch.
    This article first appeared in the November 2001 issue of Horse & Rider magazine
  • Garlic is not one of those things that "more is better", but it does have its benefits with certain horses.
     
    I have been feeding equine garlic (never feed fresh or un-processed garlic as that is when the element, allium, is most likely to be present) since 2004.
     
    I don't see that it does much to control flies, but it is at least 85% effective in controlling ticks.
     
    I start feeding in mid-March and quit feeding it anywhere from mid-October to mid-November, depending how active those evil little creatures are.
     
    I have been feeding that garlic regimen to three of my four horses without issue.
     
    The fourth horse has always had a finicky digestive system since I rescued him 16+ years ago.  I don't feed him garlic because I am afraid it will aggravate the mild ulcer he had 3 summers ago.
     
    Garlic is an immune booster, but again, too much is not a good thing.
     
    If the horse in question is anemic, then I would get him off the garlic and keep him off of it.
     
    Regarding his now itchy tail and allergic reactions to midge fly bites.  My "fourth horse" has HORRIBLE reactions to midge fly bites, tick bites and bug bites in general.
     
    I rub generic diaper rash cream down his belly line, including his belly button and his sheath opening,  every morning.
     
    Feeding him 7,000 I.U. daily of people Vitamin E capsules has also done wonders for that.  He still has reactions but not near what he used to.
     
    I started him out at 2,000 I.U. daily and slowly worked him up. 
     
    My insulin resistant horse never had a skin issue in his life until the I-R exploded on him two years ago.  I worked him up to 9,000 I.U. of people Vitamin E daily and it has been 90% successful.  He still gets breakouts, but not anything like he has in the past.
     
     I am not recommending Vitamin E, I am just saying this is what is working for these two horses.
     
    The itchy tail on the OP's horse could be anything from truly an itchy tail to an itchy, butt, sheath, or top of the back.
     
    They can't always reach the place that itches, so the tail generally bears the brunt of the trying to "scratch the itch".
     
    Hope this helps some':)'
  • The horse in question is no longer on garlic. However, I do find the stuff about keeping ticks away interesting. My horse, different from tail dude, I have always called her a tick magnet and since she has been on garlic, I have not seen any.
  • Not 100% sure of which way I lean on this one, but this is what I have found.  There are tons of garlic supplements out there.  I did alot of research, as there are other beneficial reasons to use garlic, immune building is just one.  I found a company that uses only air dried garlic, which significantly reduced the allicin content.  I'm not promoting any product, but this is an excerpt from their site.  I do use this stuff and do see a substantial reduction in the fly population nagging at my horse, yet the horse in the next stall is riddled with flies.  Guess everyone should use their own judgment for what works best for them and their individual horse's needs.  ':)'
     
    A study* done at the University of Guelph came up with these findings on allicin content: [font="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"][size=2]Air-Dried Garlic Powder (type sold by Springtime) 397 ug/gram Fresh Garlic Cloves 3,192 ug/gram Freeze-Dried Garlic (commercial grade) 6,756 ug/gram Freeze-Dried Garlic (used in study) 9,200 ug/gram [/size][/font]
    Relative Allicin Content

    Red = Relative allicin content, per study.* Beige = Post allicin compounds estimated relative content. Estimates per Springtime, Inc.
    Veterinarians versed in natural alternatives use garlic in their private practices throughout the world. While best known for its health protective properties, garlic has been used for centuries as an insect repellent. Springtime's air-dried garlic takes that benefit to a new level and is far safer than many chemical products. You may use this product with total confidence. Year round, long-term use is absolutely safe and highly recommended!
     According to Wendy Pearson, PhD., a garlic researcher at the University of Guelph, an 1,100 lb horse would have to eat more than two cups of fresh garlic cloves (more than 500 gms) a day for an extended period before experiencing negative effects.** Highly unlikely! Nine lbs a day of air-dried garlic? Impossible!
    *Pearson, Wendy. "Garlic (Allium Sativum) for Horses: In Vitro Antibacterial Activity and In Vivo Toxicity." Professor M.I. Lindinger. University of Guelph, 2003.


  • I have used the air-dried garlic from Springtime Inc for the past 4 summers and I LOVE IT! Plus, its relatively inexpensive and they almost always have "Buy 1 Get 1 Free" deals.  It comes wtih an enclosed scoop and my horses get 1 scoop twice a day. I feed it starting in March, and end in October.  The only place on their bodies I've had to use topical fly repellant is their faces and ears and only every few days because I usually use a fly mask with ears anyways.
     
    THe downside is if you have a horse that is a finicky eater...I have to mix it with a sweet feed to get my mare to eat it, and even then she'll eat it okay for a while then absolutely refuse to eat her grain with the garlic so I have to stop using garlic and then re-introduce it about a week later and slowly increase it to the full scoop. [:@]